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[paladin87]

I am making this topic because of the fact that a U.S soilder shot an unarmed person in a mosque in Fallujah. I say no because us Americans have already been looked down on because we aren't following the Geneva Convention, and this soldier was out line he shot a guy who was laying under a blanket wounded. they have video tape if he is not tried it will further put the US in a bad standing with the rest of the world.

[Anti-Spoon Barrier (D2UA)]

I hate this whole thing. I don't see why we're still even over there, and plus now we got murder? I say no to shooting unarmed people, and someone get them the hell out of that country.

[BurnerAzR.EXE]

Just becouse someone is unarmed doesnt meen there not dangerous. You gata understand that when they see someone running towards them they have no idea what that person has on them. For all they know they could be suicide bombers. I say under certain conditions they should... but if someones just standing around or sitting its not fair for them to get dragged in and shot but i know there are some guys in the army right now that shouldnt be there at all. They dont give a sh*t about procedure and take out anyone that looks remotley suspicious from afar. Iv seen so many bad things in this war its just a shame.

I keep getting letters from them asking me to join the national guard.... If i did join up i wouldnt do it now.

Edited by BurnerAzR, 16 November 2004 - 02:53 PM.

[Anti-Spoon Barrier (D2UA)]

I know what you mean Burner....it's just not even worth the cause anymore to me. I just wish it would all be over...but it won't be.

[paladin87]

I agree with you D2UA we shouldn't have gone to begin with I was against it before the war because I wanted proof.

[Anti-Spoon Barrier (D2UA)]

I had people tell me...."well they went for weapons but found worse." *beep* that. And people saying "They are fighting to protect our country." WTF is that? We need to relize we're fighting for them, not the US>

[paladin87]

I wanna revive this topic because I want everybodies honest opinion on the subject.

[NARU.EXE]

Naru hates war.
You would think in
the 21 century,
we could settle our differences in a better way.

[paladin87]

We can't if America is run by Christian Extremists and other countries are run by other religious extremists. We won't have peace it is going to be like another series of Crusades.

[thehitman1901]

Okay heres the deal! I beleive that if there is someone running right at you (that looks suspisous) should be shot,But that doesnt mean killing them someone can be shot and brought down with out being kill. Aiming for legs or arm to stop them would be better then killing them.But a US soldier cant tell sometimes if A person is A suicide bomber or not its just impossble to tell that. Now it is wrong if the person is cooperating with them.

[Jay203]

i decided not to vote 'cause well, killing is part of wat soldiers do, but then there is not such thing as killing unlimited amount of ppl. if they have a good reason to do so, then they should b allowed to fire, on the other hand, killin innocents by mistake would b bad...really bad... and war are caused by the stupidity of politicians... X_X

i sense Gunner's comment comin this way XD

[Manix]

well they went for weapons but found worse
They are fighting to protect our country.

[Shades.EXE]

We can't if America is run by Christian Extremists and other countries are run by other religious extremists. We won't have peace it is going to be like another series of Crusades.

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First off, war is necessary sometimes. Some people won't negotiate, so you have to show them you aren't kidding around.

well they went for weapons but found worse
They are fighting to protect our country.

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Tru dat.

Okay, listen up. They don't know if he was unarmed or not. For all they know, he could've had all kinds of bombs strapped to him. Second, he was given a chance to surrender, but he didn't. So of course, logical thinking would lead you to believe he was a threat, so of course you'd shoot him. But then again, you liberals aren't known for thinking logically.

Didn't you hear about the soldier that was going to pick up a wounded man to take him to the hospital? That's what we Americans do. We take their wounded and help them get better. Unfortunatly, when he went to pick up the body, it exploded from bombs strapped to it and our soldier died because of it. How do we know this guy didn't have the same thing planned? Vote nulled, the question is too general and the answers are too.

[G.O.D]

you cant really tell if they are dangerous if they arnt unarmed i mean what if the have a bomb under there coat as long as there are any weapons people will use them and will use ways of hiding them to make other people look like big monsters. im not agreeing that america should be in iraq and all other contry right now but how do you fight an enemy who doesnt show them selve the citizens can only blame the people who are hiding weaposn than attacking when american troops think there are civilians

[Manix]

Nice posts. But I think they need to get their act together over their. IT seems like they just randomly raid buildings and get shot over there. They need to get thost guys in order

[thehitman1901]

We can't if America is run by Christian Extremists and other countries are run by other religious extremists. We won't have peace it is going to be like another series of Crusades.

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First off, war is necessary sometimes. Some people won't negotiate, so you have to show them you aren't kidding around.

well they went for weapons but found worse
They are fighting to protect our country.

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Tru dat.

Okay, listen up. They don't know if he was unarmed or not. For all they know, he could've had all kinds of bombs strapped to him. Second, he was given a chance to surrender, but he didn't. So of course, logical thinking would lead you to believe he was a threat, so of course you'd shoot him. But then again, you liberals aren't known for thinking logically.

Didn't you hear about the soldier that was going to pick up a wounded man to take him to the hospital? That's what we Americans do. We take their wounded and help them get better. Unfortunatly, when he went to pick up the body, it exploded from bombs strapped to it and our soldier died because of it. How do we know this guy didn't have the same thing planned? Vote nulled, the question is too general and the answers are too.

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Thats what makes us amercans great (i'm not saying that anyone from any other counrty wouldnt do that but i was just complmenting that guy on his act of kindness)


I just ask my dad the same question and he said there are some things he was trained to do when in a situation where a unarmed man was act violent. He said he would first ask the man to lie on the ground with his head behind his head and if that didnt work they would raise there fire arms at him and ask one more time if he didnt do it they would iether slowly close in on him with weapons aimed at him and force him down on the ground and if he harm or tried to harm one of them they would open fire. thats his words not mine!

[Manix]

Was he in a war or something?

[thehitman1901]

no he was in the army. he was trained like that cause he was head of a platoon and they carried cargo from country to country. thats why my sister was born in Holland

[Omamori]

Being in the UK right now, I actually got to see the actually footage of the shooting with audio. The soldiers walked in and pointed out to the camera-man, "Those are the wounded left here." Then while the camera was focused on some dead militants, the soldier shouted about one of them playing dead (with swears and such), and as the camera just panned up, the soldier was seen firing a burst into a body that soon became still. Another militant was lying nearby beneath a blanket, playing dead like his comrade, though luckier as his pleas for mercy somehow stayed the triggers.

It's been reported that the marine involved in the shooting had just lost a colleague the day before when he (the colleague) checked on a dead militant that was trapped with explosives. Not only that: the marine involved was also said to have been shot in the face some time before this incident.

Now in his defence it could be said that he was not in a "right" frame of mind, that is assuming anybody involved in a war is ever in the "right" frame of mind. Also keep in mind that these militants fight to the death. I personally wouldn't be surprised if they would ignore the barrel trained at their head just to fire a few shots or detonate a grenade.

Now with those arguments that would relate to survival instincts, one worrying factor is the apparent calmness of this execution was carried out. None of the other marines present voiced any form of protest, and as posted earlier, one even complimented it in a way.

And lest people forget, barely a week ago footage of a lone, severely injured militant sniper being cornered in a building and subsequently killed had little or no impact on the world community. So why now?

[Panda]

What happened to Iraqi POWs/Prisoners in the Abu Ghraib prison camp contradicts everything you guys are saying about American treatment of Iraqis.